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The 2000 is a rough figure, I'll take players at their best a few years before and after that. Also worth mentioning that I was only 7 at the time, so most of my impression of them is stuff I've read and seen, rather than watching them extensively at the time, so if I'm off with a few of these feel free to put me right. If you were to get two or three players for each position for those years, what would the sides look like, and whose is the best? 2000: Casillas/Buffon/Kahn Cafu/Thuram Cannavaro/Nesta ???? Maldini/Lizarazu/Carlos Beckham/Figo Zidano/Guardiola/Scholes/Nedved Keane/Davids/Makelele Giggs/???? Zamorano/Ronaldo/Batistuta/Totti/Rivaldo Vieri/Inzaghi/Shevchenko/Raul/Del Piero There's probably a few missing so I'll let you older bunch fill them out. 2014: Neuer/Casillas/Buffon Ramos/Alves Silva/Pique Hummels/Dante Lahm/Marcelo Robben/Di Maria Iniesta/Schweinsteiger/Xavi Toure/Busquets/Vidal/Pirlo Ribery/Reus Ronaldo/Messi/Suarez Costa/Ibra/Cavaini/Falcao Looking at the two, I'd say the 2000 squad is comfortably better than what we have now. Messi and Ronaldo are better than anything from before, but looking throughout, to have Pique in that team, possibly Pirlo too, it just seems like there aren't as many world class players about.
Looks like they will go all the way.....sickening as it is. Its all going right for them. The fixtures, the run in, the rivals dropping silly points all points to them winning this league. Im sick at the thoughts of it but they've been excellent and deserve it. Cant see past them now.
does players like Tony Kroos, William Carvalho, Ilkay Gundogan, Luke Shaw n many other who linked with united really should come to united ? are you agree if giggs and rio ferdinand should retire after this season so there's a chance for many young players to play with the first team ?
These days in my opinion there does not seem to be as many celebrated defenders as there was before. Before we had maldini, cannavaro, nesta, thuram, ayala, hierro, staam, vidic (different generation I know), carvalho etc. Now we have ramos, pique, hummels, dante, pepe, evans etc who are good defenders and in my opinion some of them are world class, but there is not a single on of them that would not receive a lot of arguments against whereas the defenders I named before would receive only a few. And also there is very few teams that are considered to be tough defensively these days. Juventus defend well in seria a but struggle in the champions league, and Chelsea conceded goals, but I don't think many people would consider terry or cahill to be world class these days, it is more to do with the fact that Chelsea are a defensive team and have men behind the ball that they concede fewer than others. Onto why teams don't defend well anymore. Is it because of one reason or several? Personally I think it is because of a number of reasons. One is that the balls are changing so that they swerve more and it is harder for defenders and goalkeepers to catch and defend against. Another reason I think is that referees are stricter these days. Every foul is booked these days whereas ten years ago defenders used to rake behind the ankles of strikers regularly and rough them up as a tactic, and because defenders don't want to be sent off they are afraid to get too physical with the striker so therefore he has more pace to play. Another reason in my opinion is how teams are being set up. these days there is more pressure from fans to play attractive football. Even a small team like stoke sacks their manager (pulis) in order to improve their football while even irish fans complain about the football under trappatoni even though it got them to their first tournament in years. So therefore teams are set up to be more attacking than defensive and playing with a high defensive line...
So we all know that United are the greatest club in the history of football let alone British football, but our position as No1 Domestically is sealed for now. Liverpool pip us in Europe so there is room for debate among the two clubs fans over who really is the best but in my opinion at the moment there's so little to separate them I'd have to put the two on a par with each other. So where does that leave the other 40,000 registered clubs in England. Lets have a discussion and see where we'd put the likes of Arsenal, Everton, Villa, Chelsea and the rest. 1 = Manchester United 2 = Liverpool 3 = Arsenal 4 = Aston Villa 5 = Everton
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